Posts by Lady Liberty

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Christmas Is Not Pagan!

by Sarah Smiles in

someone wrote about christmas and i could not find your post to reply!

so here is my reply why i think christmas is not pagan!.

i just read a thread where one of the posters was saying christmas is not pagan.

Lady Liberty

Dear Sarah Smiles,

Here is something I posted last year about this very subject. http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/10/126037/1.ashx

Hello everyone,

My Mother and I were talking about Christmas being in December, and how the Christians felt it was truely a victory to have Christ Jesus birth still celebrated, unlike the pagan Sun god that was celebrated by the Pagans at the same time. We got to talking and realized that if you count backwards from when scholars really feel Jesus was most likely really born (in September), and count back 280 days of pregnancy, it would actually be late December!!! So I did some research, and came across this article. Could it be that the birthday was from the date of conception, not delivery??? Makes sence to me?? How about you?? Here it is...

December 25th has absolutely no biblical foundation as a day of Christian worship?
Or does it!

Conception would have taken place 9 months prior, (modern research studies show 266 days has been determined as average human gestation time). 6

Sept. 22, 3 B.C. ( 15 Tishri 3759 )
-266 days
=December 30, 4 B.C. = 14 Tevet 3758
This falls well within the range of Dec. 25 for the day of conception.

By celebrating Christmas on Dec. 25th, we may well be celebrating the conception of Jesus. Remember the miricle was not in the Birth of Jesus but in the conception of Mary by the Holy Spirit.

The transcendence of time for God allows him to know the future as well as the past. In this knowledge, God knew the issues facing our generation. This information puts a new spin on the abortion issue, when does life begin? Many courts say that life doesn't begin until birth, but here we see that God considers the day of conception shall be the day that life begins. Do you know anybody who would allow children to be killed after birth. And yet the issue of life and the fetus seems to create such a gray area that many courts have settled on the birth date as the day for the beginning of life and in many areas of the world abortion is legal and used as a form of birth control. Therefore, Christmas day may be Gods answer to our modern dilemma about life beginning in the womb.

Heres the site, there is more to the article then what I posted here. http://www.direct.ca/trinity/christmas.html

Sincerely,

Lady Liberty

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nine pages of BS from October AWAKE

by purplesofa in

i hope that some of you lurkers out here really take a look at some of the thread in this section of the board.

this awake magazine says not one thing about how families are asked to trust their elders and how these very elders were and are abusing their children.

it mentions nothing about watching out for these trusted men in the congregations.............oh it brings out the internet, other family members and fathers and males in particular.. it will tell you how much your child needs to do to prevent something like this from happening.

Lady Liberty

Dear Mcsemike,

Exactly! Now take that one step further...even though the child may be silent out of sheer fear and shock, Jehovah would hear their cries that are not vocal, but in their heart and head right?? Well then if the elders were truely being directed by "Holy Spirit" then wouldn't it direct them to determine that the child was truely a victim of rape wether there were a second person or not and wether they screamed out loud or not?

The two person rule makes no sence as we all know no one would ever try something like this hanous crime in view of another adult, unless they were guilty too. Yet it makes no sence for another reason..it is like with this rule they are saying Jehovah doesn't have the ability to bring it out and move the ones in charge with "Holy Spirit" to take care of matters! So they contradict themselves..since they claim to have "Holy Spirit" yet still need another person to come forward from witnessing it!

When will they EVER WAKE UP!!??

Sincerely,

Lady Liberty

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MY DAD MIGHT DIE DUE TO THE 'NO BLOOD' DOCTRINE

by Mary in

i don't have much time to post as i'm headed back to the hospital, but my father collapsed this morning and had to be rushed to the hospital.

in a nutshell: he needs a blood transfusion as his hemoglobin is dropping (bleeding internally), but thanks to this fucking cult, that's not an option...........he'll accept the fractions but those bastards from the blood liaison committee have already shown up to ensure he doesn't cave............... for those of you who still believe, i'm asking you to say a prayer for my dad........and if anyone from crooklyn is reading this: you better hope my father doesn't die due to your fucked up rules, .

Lady Liberty

Dear Mary,

(((HUGS)))!!! I haven't been on regularly for a while and missed this thread! I am so sorry about your Dad!! My thoughts and prayers are with you both!! Try not to blame yourself, there is nothing you can do to change what has happened. When you start to have negative guilty thoughts, try and push them away. He needs you right now, and if he knew you were haunted with guilt, he would no doubt start stressing about you. Hang in there dear!! We are here for you!! How is his count today?? We will keep praying!!

Sincerely,

Lady Liberty

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nine pages of BS from October AWAKE

by purplesofa in

i hope that some of you lurkers out here really take a look at some of the thread in this section of the board.

this awake magazine says not one thing about how families are asked to trust their elders and how these very elders were and are abusing their children.

it mentions nothing about watching out for these trusted men in the congregations.............oh it brings out the internet, other family members and fathers and males in particular.. it will tell you how much your child needs to do to prevent something like this from happening.

Lady Liberty

Dear Purps,

Thank you for your post although reading the artile made me FURIOUS!! What hypocrites!!! Rerread this paragraph!

Sadly, though, most of such crimes go unpunished by authorities today. In Australia, for example, it has been estimated that only 10 percent of offenders are prosecuted, and few are convicted. Other lands have a simular record. While governments may be able to do little to protect the Christian family, the applcation of Bible principles can do far more.

Here they are the very ones who protect, hide and coverup molestation, so the authorities know nothing of the crime!! Clearly this article is written for damage control as the exposure of their participation in these horrific cases and others come to the fore within their fold! Talk about making you want to puke! I am with you Purps!!!

Sincerely,

Lady Liberty

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Christmas...pagan? or non-pagan?

by FreedomFrog in

i just read a thread where one of the posters was saying christmas is not pagan.

from my research and what i remember reading up on it, it was taken from the pagans.. let me explain.

first, i apologize because i researched this about 4 years ago and i don't have all of my research material at hand.

Lady Liberty

Dear Freedom Frog,

Here is some interesting information I found when doing my research..here is three thread:

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/10/126037/1.ashx

Hello everyone,

My Mother and I were talking about Christmas being in December, and how the Christians felt it was truely a victory to have Christ Jesus birth still celebrated, unlike the pagan Sun god that was celebrated by the Pagans at the same time. We got to talking and realized that if you count backwards from when scholars really feel Jesus was most likely really born (in September), and count back 280 days of pregnancy, it would actually be late December!!! So I did some research, and came across this article. Could it be that the birthday was from the date of conception, not delivery??? Makes sence to me?? How about you?? Here it is...

December 25th has absolutely no biblical foundation as a day of Christian worship?
Or does it!

Conception would have taken place 9 months prior, (modern research studies show 266 days has been determined as average human gestation time). 6

Sept. 22, 3 B.C. ( 15 Tishri 3759 )
-266 days
=December 30, 4 B.C. = 14 Tevet 3758
This falls well within the range of Dec. 25 for the day of conception.

By celebrating Christmas on Dec. 25th, we may well be celebrating the conception of Jesus. Remember the miricle was not in the Birth of Jesus but in the conception of Mary by the Holy Spirit.

The transcendence of time for God allows him to know the future as well as the past. In this knowledge, God knew the issues facing our generation. This information puts a new spin on the abortion issue, when does life begin? Many courts say that life doesn't begin until birth, but here we see that God considers the day of conception shall be the day that life begins. Do you know anybody who would allow children to be killed after birth. And yet the issue of life and the fetus seems to create such a gray area that many courts have settled on the birth date as the day for the beginning of life and in many areas of the world abortion is legal and used as a form of birth control. Therefore, Christmas day may be Gods answer to our modern dilemma about life beginning in the womb.

Heres the site, there is more to the article then what I posted here. http://www.direct.ca/trinity/christmas.html

Sincerely,

Lady Liberty

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Shepherds Looking For "Lost Sheep" Broke Their Legs Upon Finding Them

by Justitia Themis in

on another discussion board, a poster made this odd comment.

she said that when ancient shepherds recovered a lost sheep, they broke its legs.

then, they never ran away again.

Lady Liberty

Dear Justitia,

My first inclination is to say the person who told you that is smoking crack! Although I have never researched it, it sounds too retarded to be true. If you think about it, one little shepherd boy having to carry the sheep that ran away around his neck because he broke it's legs because it couldn't walk in order to move from pasture to pasture?? Would seem more fitting if he just made a leash. Try googling it. What a terrible example of how to treat ones that come back!

Her illustrations with breaking the sheeps legs totally contradicts the illustration in the bible of the prodigal son!! His father slaughtered the fattest calf and they had a HUGE celebration!! Infact in the story, the brother was jealous that his father was showering so much love and affection on his brother who had been so bad. By trying to justify cruel treatment on those that return, she sounds to me like the jealous brother in this illustration!!

Sincerely,

Lady Liberty

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How many of you have food stored in case of an emergency??

by Lady Liberty in

jw
friends

good evening everyone,.

another topic here made me think of the mormons who are counseled to have a years worth of food on hand in the event of an emergency.

food, water, money and gas are all things suggested to save.

Lady Liberty

Dear friends Happy Sunday!!,

Thank you for all your replys. Not to worry, I have no room for a years worth of food either. But I do think it would be a good idea to keep stocked up on a few things for a few days. It wouldn't cost that much, but I would rather be safe then sorry in the event of a power outage (which this area is known to have in the winter)..etc... or even in a financial crunch.

Was mainly curious if the majority were storing food, and I if was a minority or not....so thanks for all your replys, you answered my question.

Sincerely,

Lady Liberty

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How many of you have food stored in case of an emergency??

by Lady Liberty in

jw
friends

good evening everyone,.

another topic here made me think of the mormons who are counseled to have a years worth of food on hand in the event of an emergency.

food, water, money and gas are all things suggested to save.

Lady Liberty

Heres the shopping list from www.ideastore.com thought it was interesting!

L.L.


Food Storage for $5.00 a Week	RS/$5.00 a week.pdf
Week 1: 61bs. salt Week 2: 5 cans cream of chicken soup Week 3: 20 lbs. of sugar Week 4: 8 cans tomato soup Week 5: 50 lbs. wheat Week 6: 6lbs. macaroni Week 7: 20 lbs. sugar Week 8: 8 cans tuna Week 9: 6lbs. yeast Week 10: 50Ibs.wheat Week 11: 8 cans tomato soup Week 12: 20 lbs. sugar Week 13: 10 lbs. powdered milk Week 14: 7 boxes macaroni and cheese Week 15: 50 lbs. wheat Week 16: 5 cans cream of chicken soup Week 17: 1 bottle 500 multi-vitamins Week 18: 10 lbs. powdered milk Week 19: 5 cans cream mushroom soup Week 20: 50 lbs. wheat Week 21: 8 cans tomato soup Week 22: 20 lbs. sugar Week 23: 8 cans tuna Week 24: 6 lbs. shortening Week 25: 50 lbs. wheat Week 26: 51bs. honey Week 27: 10 lbs. powdered milk Week 28: 20 lbs. sugar Week 29:5 lbs. peanut butter Week 30: 50 lbs. wheat Week 31: 7 boxes macaroni and cheese Week 32: 10 lbs. powdered milk Week 33: 1 bottle 500 aspirin Week 34: 5 cans cream of chicken soup Week 35: 50 lbs. wheat Week 36: 7 boxes macaroni and cheese Week 37: 6lbs. salt Week 38: 20 lbs. sugar Week 39: 8 cans tomato soup Week 40: 50 lbs. wheat Week 41: 5 cans cream chicken soup Week 42: 20 lbs. sugar Week 43: 1 bottle 500 multi-vitamins Week 44: 8 cans tuna Week 45: 50 lbs. wheat Week 46: 6lbs. macaroni Week 47: 20 lbs. sugar Week 48: 5 cans cream mushroom soup Week 49: 5 lbs. honey Week 50: 20 lbs. sugar Week 51: 8 tomato soup Week 52: 5 lbs. wheat Some weeks you will have leftover change. Save the change each week in a kitty to be used for the weeks you may exceed $5.00 (like wheat or milk). You will end up with: 500 pounds of wheat 180 pounds of sugar 40 pounds of powdered milk 12 pounds of salt 10 pounds of honey 5 pounds peanut butter 45 cans of tomato soup 15 cans of cream of mushroom soup 15 cans of cream of chicken soup 24 cans of tuna 21 boxes of macaroni and cheese 500 aspirin 1000 multi-vitamins 6 pounds of yeast 6 pounds of shortening 12 pounds of macaroni This should be enough to sustain two people for one year. For every two people in your family add $5.00 more and double or triple the amount of the item you are buying that week.

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Mr. Flippers Son & Girlfriend Have Bigfoot Experience on Weekend Trip

by flipper in

jw
friends

granted i expect a couple of you out there are doubting this and have expressed this, i certainly respect your right to do so.

that being said there are some of you who have dealt with this bigfoot experience in a very real way.

so here it goes, i had mentioned my son and his girlfriend last weekend were going back to the place my son had his may bigfoot sighting experience.

Lady Liberty

P.S.S.

Also, when you return in October, be sure to get a sample of that poop!!

L.L.

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Mr. Flippers Son & Girlfriend Have Bigfoot Experience on Weekend Trip

by flipper in

jw
friends

granted i expect a couple of you out there are doubting this and have expressed this, i certainly respect your right to do so.

that being said there are some of you who have dealt with this bigfoot experience in a very real way.

so here it goes, i had mentioned my son and his girlfriend last weekend were going back to the place my son had his may bigfoot sighting experience.

Lady Liberty

P.S. Be sure to take some plaster of paris to mix and make a plaster print!!

L.L.